A mans right to have babies :p

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 2:46 am

ugh, anyone can be a terrorist. not just a bunch of people who are from other countries. star jeanne is right, people who kill abortion doctors are terrorists as well, using religion as their reason for killing(which i never understood because the bible says "thou shalt not kill" as well as "let he without sin cast the first stone") one question for everyone, if a person kills someone, is killing that person justified? i may not agree with all aspect of abortion laws, but i do believe it is a woman's right to choose. i also believe that if abortion was banned, more women would go to "backalley butchers" to have half assed abortions and do things such as sticking a coathanger up their twat inadvertantly killing themselves in the process. abortion being outlawed would cause more deaths rather than save more lives.

<span style='color:#bf0000'><span style='font-size:16pt;line-height:100%'>Split from the "kerrys a douchbag" thread ~v0id</span></span>

Devlin · Post by **Devlin** » 13-09-04, 3:14 am

yeah whatever

The fact is the site is the truth, you don't like it.....oh well, the abortion laws are about restricting and banning PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIONS. Capital punishment holds no candle to killing innocent lives, and its beyond me for ANYONE to even comprehend putting them in the same category. I guess you want an America that someone can go on a killing spree, and maybe pay a few years. And it be OK, whereas someone killing a unborn child being equal to it and get off scott free only because its constitutional. Tell me how much sense that makes. As I said before...look up the processes of partial birth abortions and tell me, that you can have some one in office supporting it with a clear conscience. Believe me when I say that capital punishment, is FAR less of a problem campared to the abortions that we have take place, right or wrong.

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 3:27 am

not all inmates that have been put to death in the past are guilty. there has been evidence found of people being innocent after their deaths. even now this is happening.

Devlin · Post by **Devlin** » 13-09-04, 3:32 am

Did I post where it said all where guilty? *goes back to read*...nope I think not, I said that abortions are more of a problem, than someone goping through due process. Start teaching the yournger generation to keep their pants on then those going through due process would be a bigger problem. I can't say that I can feel compasion to tose who break the law to the point of recieving capital punishment.

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 3:39 am

no matter what you tell kids, they are going to do what they want. what about the people that have been raped by strangers and/or family members? are they supposed to have that baby because if they do, it will be a product of hate and most likely grow up abused. that child will serve as a reminder of the violence inflicted on them and only remind them of ther attacker and inspire disgust and hatred. sometimes there is a good reason.

Devlin · Post by **Devlin** » 13-09-04, 3:44 am

Your overlooking the fact that there are laws that allow abortions of that nature, I am talking about people carrying their fetuses past mid-term then having them pulled out by a set of utinsils, meanwhile crushing the scull. That is what Kerry has no problem allowing.

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 3:47 am

those laws only apply to situations where there is a dire need to take one life to save another. anything past 3 months is illegal unless there is a medical reason as to why the child can no be born.

Devlin · Post by **Devlin** » 13-09-04, 3:50 am

Only on some cases, not all.... And with todays medical technology you can't even start to think that problems with the pregnancy can not be seen well ahead of time. That is what prenatal visits are for.

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 3:57 am

prenatal visits can not point out things such as a fatal heart murmer or anything to that extent.

Devlin · Post by **Devlin** » 13-09-04, 4:04 am

Oh so I guess mamograms are useless. Every checkup they test for iron in the blood and everything is just short of a five yr physical.. so don't feed me that crapola.

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 4:14 am

i never said that mammograms are useless. that is a yearly checkup for breast cancer...prenatal visits as well are not useless, they let you know what you need to do to ensure that your baby has a better chance of surviving and living a healthy life...but they can't detect a heart murmer untill a baby has a heart which is past the first trimester.

Devlin · Post by **Devlin** » 13-09-04, 4:18 am

I would prefer giving the baby a chance if one is detected by issueing drugs and allowing it to go full term, the equipment used to detect such things isn't the most reliable in the world.

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 4:27 am

you have to be a woman to immagine the pain of losing something that is part of you and the person you love after carrying it in your body to full term. post partem depression is a major issue with mothers who have stillborne children, sometimes leading to suicide and other destructive behavior. you were the one pointing out the fact that we should be able to detect problems early on because of our advanced technology and now you are turning it around saying that our technology isn't completely reliable. choose a side and stay on it. if it isn't reliable in later stages, what makes it more reliable in the beginning.

Devlin · Post by **Devlin** » 13-09-04, 4:32 am

No, I was referencing medicine in general, not just one thing..

Night_Angel · Post by **Night_Angel** » 13-09-04, 4:38 am

well, not everything is predictable and babies don't always come out perfect....and if they did, there probably wouldn't be mid term abortions.